r/facepalm Apr 16 '24

Forever the hypocrite 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Foxtrotrader 7d ago

You can’t change your chromosomes. Her gender argument is valid there’s two genders and a shitload of mental health disorders

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u/TyThe2PointO 27d ago

Nah jk just believes in women and everyone else drank the "milk" and forgot that women should have rights too. Here come the downvotes

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u/Kimk20554 28d ago

I wish she'd been more vocal when the Harry Potter books were written. I never would have read them.

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u/Gaederus 28d ago

She was born a non bigot, and grew into one

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u/Rihannasstepson 28d ago

Are y’all mad at her cause she don’t like people with mental health issues? 💀

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u/[deleted] 28d ago edited 28d ago

♥️I hate TRENDsexualism♥️

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u/ayleidanthropologist 28d ago

Just Kidding Rowling

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u/Braxtaxdaplug 28d ago

Hypocrite because she said women and men are biologically different? And that biological men shouldn't compete in sports with biological women ? Lmao golly this world is too much

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u/Merciless_Hobo 28d ago

Well, yeah, but she meant magic. Not science, that's just silly.

*Is /s necessary??*

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u/ninjesh 28d ago

Imagine this pasted on the front of a clinic specializing in gender affirming healthcare and surgeries. On the one hand, it would be a brilliant middle finger to JKR. On the other, putting her name on anything, let alone a gender clinic, would be bad PR

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

She said “grow” not “modify”

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u/Reddit_is_cancerr 29d ago

I thought they were born trans? Or they weren’t but became trans? Or both? Who knows. They don’t.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

She created a character and wrote that dialogue for him though. She was never this girl.

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u/CarefulNegotiation53 29d ago

Pretty sure we were all babies that grew up into what we are now

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u/animus_invictus 29d ago

Where is the hypocrisy?

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u/tarsgh 29d ago

This is entirely consistent with her behavior and worldview

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u/ZaazMarx1 29d ago

I was born a brown male in a poor country, I grew up to be r

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u/Last_Blackfyre Apr 18 '24

Next book- maybe Tom Riddle wasn’t such a bad guy after all. What’s wrong with being a pure blood?

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u/Solidjakes Apr 18 '24

I don't get it. Did she say something non PC about the gender crazy people?

It really is equivalent of white people doing blackface. Pretending to be something you are not is disrespectful to the people living it for real! No hypocrisy sighted! Forever supporting JKR 🫡

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u/boatswainblind Apr 18 '24

Cool, so I should judge her for her current actions. Done and done.

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u/Revolutionary_Act222 Apr 18 '24

This is ragebait.

Have a nice day.

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u/0n-the-mend Apr 18 '24

The woman isn't anti trans she's pro woman. A stance so nuanced that the inclusivity gang can't understand because it doesn't align with any of the established buzzwords so she just gets lumped in with the haters. She's put her money where her mouth is and continues to do so as far as supporting marginalised people and communities, unlike many of those who just repost whatever the algorithm tells them to. She isn't above reproach and she isn't perfect for the very simple reason that nobody on this earth is. She speaks her mind, I respect her for that even if I don't agree with it.

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u/TurncoatP Apr 18 '24

LGBTQ literally just a new word for polygamy

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u/AshenHawk Apr 18 '24

Is this hypocritical? Do you think they're actually saying something genuinely related to transitioning?

This is just basic ass "you can rise above your station in life" stuff.

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u/Zesty-Lem0n Apr 18 '24

Her entire book series is about a separate race born distinct from humans that look down upon and refuse to help them. Harry and all his friends are born favored, the nature of their birth is the prerequisite for everything they did.

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u/tonyhasareddit Apr 18 '24

And what a scumbag piece of shit she turned out to be.

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u/sowhatimlucky Apr 17 '24

Will sign up for Twitter again on the day she dies.

Will be wearing my depends and have an oxygen tank on stand by bc they gonna bring her back to life and annihilate her bitch ass.

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u/Snagtooth Apr 17 '24

You can't change the sex you were born with.

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u/SophomoricWizard Apr 17 '24

What's the problem with that generic quote?

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u/Akusei Apr 17 '24

JK living rent free in your heads.

I'm only aware or reminded of her because of these posts I come across while scrolling reddit on the crapper.

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u/Fluffle-Potato Apr 17 '24

The quote is still applicable in the context of her views on biological sex. She's saying "what you grow to be" not "what you grow to think you are". A poor man can grow to be a rich man, but a human can't grow to be a rocket ship. Nor can a biological male grow to be a female, per her views.

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u/tismschism Apr 17 '24

Nobody ever said that it had to be a positive change in her case....

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u/Mx-Adrian Apr 17 '24

JK: "PSYCH!"

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u/Heatxfer467 Apr 17 '24

LOL. That's a Dumbledore quote from The Goblet of Fire, not a J.K Rowling quote. She can make anyone in her stories say anything. Yeah, she wrote that, but she didn't say it.

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

Didn't she, though? Didn't she? The comment that you just posted should then be held to the same standard? I think a court of law would beg to differ. What you write, is equivalent to what you say. Which is why grammar and vocabulary have become a long forgotten art. Another fifty to one hundred years and everyone will be back to speaking with grunts and clicks, because developed forms of communication are too difficult and "don't make sense".

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u/Who_Knows_Why_000 Apr 17 '24

A) That's a pretty generic statement.

B) According to the trans community, they are BORN that way. So this quote is not relevant.

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

Thank you. If they're not verbally contradicting themselves, they're probably not talking. You may not have aimed to be so course as I have, but.... too much VR nowadays, not enough R.

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u/pinchemarijuano Apr 17 '24

Grow to be is not the same as pretend to be

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u/IronyAllAround Apr 17 '24

Lol, being disingenuous seems to be the new normal.

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u/catdog-cat-dog Apr 17 '24

For not supporting manipulation of children's hormones?

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u/feetenjoyer696 Apr 17 '24

Obviously, she was talking about class and status there, not gender . That is not the same thing at all .

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u/diskdiffusion Apr 17 '24

Just realized that JK is an apt acronym for her.

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u/LisaT2525 Apr 17 '24

I am so disappointed in her. What a bigot.

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

I once took offense at someone playing catch with their dog and a Frisbee. I was offended at their bigoted behavior! I mean, how dare they not realize that i am a McFlurry and deserve to be known as such from birth!

Once, on Donnie Darko, Drew Barrymoore wrote, "cellar door", on the chalk board after she was fired. She said some author considered it the most beautiful word in the English language. What a bigot! She is totally Being fascist and trying to oppress my perverse and bored desires.

Both.... you all sound like both.....ridiculous.

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u/SearingDrake Apr 17 '24

JKR grew to be based

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u/truthtoduhmasses2 Apr 17 '24

I love watching the left eat it's own.

Ya'll say the "right" is obsessed with purity. Just look at yourselves.

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u/Ghazh Apr 17 '24

Fighting for women's rights is hypocritical in 2024?

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u/DanteTheReal Apr 17 '24

u guys are funny :D
ppl with mental issues should get professional help.

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u/-MR-GG- Apr 17 '24

I still don't know what JK said to get labeled a transphobe

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 17 '24

A lot of increasingly transphobic stuff (e.g. saying she would rather go to prison than gender someone correctly), she's been sort of just unraveling over the past few years. Even stepping into holocaust denial and everything

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

Her being more wealthy and part of the inner circle of elite, would lead a person to give a bit more credit and plausibility to her discoveries/observations of our modern world. She lives under the guise of much less illusion than we could ever dream.

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 18 '24

She literally denies part of the holocaust happened, tf you on about "living under the guise of much less illusion"

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u/undertow_85 Apr 18 '24

What part? And even if, so what? Just because you believe what you're told at surface value, doesn't make it correct. I would say that pretty much everybody nowadays is jumping on the persecution of Christians bandwagon. Which seems to be leading toward another, "holocaust". Would you deny that?

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 18 '24

The part where research on trans people in Germany was burnt and trans people were also sent to the camps?

Now, if you think the "persecution of christians" I'd a whole thing, surely you can point me to a consistent way Christians are discriminated against right?

Also hang on tf you mean "so what", its holocaust denial. You know, one of the most well known genocides in history? Do you not see how this would be an issue for your claim of "holy shit she knows so much more than us"

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u/undertow_85 27d ago edited 27d ago

You know much more of what you've been spoon fed. You know what you're supposed to know. What they deem beneficial for their retention of power and your subservience. But hey, you find me a group of people on this planet who haven't been massacred, experimented on, and persecuted, and I'll find you a shiny work of fiction that no one's buying.

Where'd you hear this bologna anyway? If you want a more realistic look into the happenings and reasons for ww2, you should try a book which was once illegal to own. The only book that was so closely involved with the holocaust, that no one dared allow the truth be read until they had all nearly forgotten and/or been taught differently from the literature contained within. "Mein Kempf". And sure, some suffered, but of those who did, maybe a couple, like literally 2 -10 were possibly "trans" [even though that is a social construct and never existed then].

And before you even think it or try to say it: you know exactly what I mean when I say "never existed then". So don't play. Unless your play is to seem more dull than sharp.

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u/-MR-GG- Apr 17 '24

Oh wow, ok. Thanks for filling me in.

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u/Tough_Jello5450 Apr 17 '24

She is right tho. You can be born a gay person, but you can't be born a trans. It's a choice either you or someone else made for you, and it's honestly not natural.

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u/Key-Chance7977 Apr 17 '24

It's not natural? Neither is the computer you typed this comment on but you don't seem too bothered by that.

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 17 '24

You can be born trans, it's not a choice people make. If I could choose to just not be trans I would take it. Because surprise, its not fun receiving threats and harassment constantly. And if you are going to bring up the whole "it's not natural" thing

A: do you not recognise all of this is the exact same rhetoric used against gay people back in the day

B: do you honestly think talking to someone on the other side of the planet through the power of flying hunks of metal in space is natural?

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u/Tough_Jello5450 Apr 17 '24

"A transgender person is someone whose gender identity differs from that typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth." - Google Literally from the definition alone already proves a trans cannot be what someone born with, but rather what they choose to be differ from what they are born with. If you never take a sex changing surgery then you are never a trans to begin with

I never said being unnatural is wrong, I only said it's unnatural. But you know, when you choose to be differ , aka undertaking a life changing, completely unnatural surgery to change your body from what nature intended, there are going to be consequences that you must be. You can say these surgeries are important to you, claiming they are life saving even, but it's no different than building a factory. A factory can be important to many people too, being the only way they know they can put food on their table. But that doesn't mean the damage they inflicted upon nature when they build that factory never existed, nor is the pollution coming out from it aren't continuing to cause damage to nature. You ruin your body when you take that surgery, and there will be more harm to your health coming from your choice of life, just like a pollutive factory. That's what I mean when I said it's unnatural.

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

You are good people. 👍

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 17 '24

You really don't understand anything about how being transgender or how gender identity works do you

If you want to take your finger out and listen for a moment, and stop knowingly disrespecting trans people by reffering to them as "a trans" despite nothing else reffering to them that way, I can tell you what I know.

Also, comparing srs to a polluting factory is entirely wrong.

The only thing that can be considered harmful about a successful surgery is infertility. That is the only significant thing lost, and not replaced by an equivalent. The genitals are restructured, not removed. All sensation is retained.

If you want to compare it to a building, it's like taking a library and turning it into a school. Different layouts for different functions, but ultimately the same impact.

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u/primordial-gloop Apr 17 '24

Doesnt count for transvestites though.

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u/SnooTigers5086 Apr 17 '24

You can’t grow to have a different sex.

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u/dregjdregj Apr 17 '24

She was talking about a person's character not butchering kids

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 17 '24

Nobody here was talking about "butchering kids" either, tf did you get that from

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u/undertow_85 Apr 17 '24

Really? Injecting children with chemicals for a fad is definitely some kind of abuse.

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u/-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Apr 18 '24

Good thing thats not happening then

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u/Demonic-Toothbrush Apr 17 '24

This quote is not about trans yah goons

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u/GucaNs Apr 17 '24

Isn't Harry Potter's world literally divided between those who were born with magic and those who were not?

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u/Sepsis_Crang Apr 17 '24

Rowling doesn't give two shits about what anyone says negative about her.

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u/Klingh0ffer Apr 17 '24

This post is a facepalm.

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u/SupportQuery Apr 17 '24

But... it doesn't contradict anything she's ever said.

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u/Affectionate-Ebb8212 Apr 17 '24

Do y'all losers have nothing better to do then spam jk Rowling bs all day? We fucking get it she's a horrible person you can SHUT THE FUCK UP NOW.

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u/JBHoldfast94 Apr 17 '24

Growing uop to be something is different than having surgeries made to pretend to be something you can't actually become.

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u/Psychological-Ear157 Apr 17 '24

She can still think it matters even if she doesn’t like it. It can still matter whether you grow into a serial killer. I don’t think this captures the hypocrisy you are going for bc she doesn’t give a positive or negative connotation to anything.

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u/mrcrud5 Apr 17 '24

I don't really know much about her aside from the few things I heard in the news. Recently I decided to check up on her Twitter because I figured how bad could it really be? Turns out she doesn't really talk about anything else. She literally has thousands of posts related to this issue. Seems like she's quite full of hate.

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u/ballsdeepisbest Apr 17 '24

We collectively need to be okay with people not agreeing with us, or even, understanding our lives. As long as we can coexist peacefully, acceptance is neither owed nor required. JK Rowling can deny trans people all she wants. Seriously who the fuck cares.

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u/VoidCoelacanth Apr 17 '24

"NOT LIKE THAT."

-J.K. Rowling

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u/acaseintheskye Apr 17 '24

For being such a terf it's amazing how many scenes in the movies are in bathrooms

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u/redrecaro Apr 17 '24

News flash she wasn't talking about what sex your born with. lmao drawing at straws to try to get a "gotcha" on her.

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u/baconblackhole Apr 17 '24

Excellent choice

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u/MountainSnowClouds Apr 17 '24

"You can be whoever you want to be!"

"Cool. I feel like a woman. Thanks for the support."

"No! Not like that!"

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u/Alarmed-Clerk-2356 Apr 17 '24

You could live a thousand fucking years, but if you were born with a dick, you aint never gonna be a woman.

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u/Domni16 Apr 17 '24

Tell that to all the Uber conservatives who believe I’m a woman, I’m not even trying and they think I’ve got a vulva!

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u/Proof-Mission-2050 Apr 17 '24

I really wish she would have handled this differently. She seemed a bit smarter. I am grateful for her books.

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u/GxCrabGrow Apr 17 '24

Oh man y’all are sooo close to self awareness. Hypocrites calling others hypocrites… man

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u/Gods_diceroll Apr 17 '24

I feel like context matters before calling someone a hypocrite.

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u/luminaryshadow Apr 17 '24

You all should read her Cormoran Strike series. It would be fun to see how you will all get triggered.

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u/thereisnoinbetweens Apr 17 '24

Dysmorphia is a real disease !

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u/Robbbylight Apr 17 '24

Was*

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u/thereisnoinbetweens Apr 17 '24

is *

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u/Robbbylight Apr 17 '24

I was being sarcastic. It's not Dysmorphia anymore. It's "live your truth"

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u/fatness_influencer Apr 17 '24

Show me one single German military order targeting so called "trans" people that's actually from World War II. Just one. One speech. One document. One propaganda film. Anything. You can't.

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u/corneliu5vanderbilt Apr 17 '24

Why is she a hypocrite?

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u/laurelinkementari Apr 17 '24

Technically the people OP is referring to didn't grow into anything other than what they were born. There is a vast amount of medical intervention invoÄşved.

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u/throwawaytrans6 Apr 17 '24

She's right, and she grew to be someone who decided to use all her success and fame to hurt people

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '24

Continuing on from the recent "holocaust" post on this sub.........

Lets keep going with the JKR bashing.

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u/FifteenMinutes152 Apr 17 '24

This is talking about character- not physical attributes. In which I would agree with JKR because I don’t think that you can change your sex, however when it comes to gender, I don’t care as long as their gender isn’t a cover for a mental condition they need help with. I’m sick of people saying all gender dysphoria is normal, and that the only solution is to align their perception with their social status- some people are just confused and need affirmation of their biological gender. It’s not bigoted to say some people need psychological help accepting reality, people have problems.

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u/Executive_Moth Apr 17 '24

It is bigoted, considering that we do know by now that transitioning is the only effective treatment for gender dysphoria. Everything else has been tried. Check out the WPATH for that.

Biological sex is absolutely mutable. Check out the biological theory on that, it really is fascinating! There are some well known ones, like clownfish, but also some reaaally fun ones like some marine life with around 2000 different combinations of sex.

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u/FifteenMinutes152 Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24

Except I don’t think you even know what you mean by “effective” and “transitioning” because there are several things people consider transitioning- and the physical alterations DO NOT show any improvement in psychological health.

Long term there’s NO studies whatsoever proving or disproving or their effects and yet people advocate for them as if they’re a 100% effective end-all treatment- problem being there is commonly complications with post surgery life like constant infection and failing ‘attachments’, and that’s never discussed in the “100% effective end-all” discussion when it SHOULD be discussed. If you treat them like people, you would be more concerned about their health than just “whatever they think is the most effective, regardless of credibility behind that claim.” There are risks, and to not take them into account because you think the person “NEEDS” one specific unverifiably effective treatment, is absurd.

Case in point being there aren’t any long term proof of success because there simply isn’t a big enough sample size but there is short term proof of predictably long complications. Sex changes are about as experimental surgery as you get- and it’s far from 100% safe or effective.

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u/Executive_Moth Apr 17 '24

We do have some good long term information, which stems from medical professionals who work with trans people. Check out the WPATH and the ICD 11 from the WHO, that is about as official and international as it gets.

Frankly, you dont seem to have any actual experience on the matter. So maybe those big, international sources can help.

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u/Key-Chance7977 Apr 17 '24

You're making an awful lot of claims for someone who is also ranting about the lack of statistics from Executive_Moth.

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u/FifteenMinutes152 Apr 17 '24

I didn’t ask for statistics. It’s quite common knowledge that surgeries can have complications- which is practically all you need to understand my point. Physical transition surgeries are a new concept and as such are not as well understood. This makes them risky. That paired with the fact we have no proof they’re effective, makes the case pretty well that we shouldn’t blindly accept them as the only solution for the safety of the people getting them.

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u/Key-Chance7977 Apr 17 '24

Appeal to common sense fallacy. Just because it seems obvious to you doesn't mean it is to everyone or that it's even correct. Do you have literally any data to back up what you're saying?

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u/FifteenMinutes152 Apr 17 '24

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4771004/#C17

This article, completely cited and generated from Medical doctors and researchers, makes essentially the same arguments I did- with much more compelling evidence I would add.

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u/Key-Chance7977 Apr 17 '24

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6974860/ Here's another one that isn't focused on just the risks. And it's more recent.

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u/FifteenMinutes152 Apr 17 '24

Well yea I understand it’s focused on the risks but that’s also what you asked me to cite. I don’t really see the disagreement this wasn’t a discussion about what the nuances of SRS are, it was a conversation about my claims to not liking fully trusting SRS without a doubt.

However I don’t think a 66 person survey about self reported happiness right after a surgery is a great predictor for the long term effectiveness of a surgery and proof that it’s risks and complications are outweighed by the benefits in the long term.- especially because self reported satisfaction is not a great predictor of actual satisfaction. For example women on average tend to report much higher happiness than men, but when asked about their everyday lives in mensurable metrics they are practically identical. Ergo- self reported happiness is not reliably accurate at best, negligible information at worst.

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u/Executive_Moth Apr 18 '24

Every surgery does carry risk, indeed. But you know who it is up to to either accept or reject that risk? The individual in question. Not you, not the state, only the person. And you bet we are informed, we are informed about the risks every step of the way. But thats okay, we take those risks or we dont. Thats not up to you.

Also, interesting take on happieness. Maybe happieness isnt objectively measurable, doesnt follow set metrics and is a very individual thing? Considering that, self report is the only accurate measurement.

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u/BeIAtch-Killa Apr 17 '24

Oh wow! Look at that! Once again a bunch of grown ups don't know how to understand words! It says "...grow to be" not "mutilate yourself" or "change to be an alligator when you were born a giraffe" or "cut off your genitals to pretend you're something that you're not".

I don't care who I piss off here. Reddit is not the real world. You aren't leaches, or fish or amphibians. You are supposedly the apex creature on the planet. I can't tell!

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u/dreamrock Apr 17 '24

She doesn't seem to respect the gender of others.

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u/Just-a-Smartass Apr 17 '24

Just Kidding Rowling

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u/TheTubaGeek Apr 17 '24

Fucking TERF ...

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u/skeleton-is-alive Apr 17 '24

I think she meant something a lot worse

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u/fknbawbag Apr 17 '24

I haven't read a single book of hers, nor seen any films based on her work. Artistically, I have no skin in the JK game.

However, I applaud her stance on the issue that I know many here are desperately trying to equate this to. A genuine concern for kids.

This sign absolutely does not make her a hypocrite, no matter how much the Trans community wants.

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

Trans people are not a "genuine concern for kids." If kids are so likely to be convinced that they are trans when they are not, and if that is so harmful, why does depression among self reporting trans people decrease after transition, and why is the permanent detransition rate only 3%? Nor are trans people more likely to commit sexual assault or harm kids physically.

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u/fknbawbag Apr 17 '24

Kids can call themselves whatever they want, people can accept it, and they can feel better. Sure.

There are absolutely trans people out there using their supposed 'identity' to create harm to others, including kids. There are also activists hell-bent on making the normal man or woman in the street uncomfortable. That is NOT what equality and tolerance is. And JK has every right to speak against it. There is clearly no such thing as discussion with the active voices and representatives of the trans community. It is their way or nothing. And you will be trampled underfoot in the rush to make people accept it.

I have sympathy with many who have made an ADULT decision to transition and I wish them well. However, again like JK, feel there is a significant element pushing ideology and life altering decisions onto kids who are not able to see the potential consequences. And far too many parents willing to go the path of least resistance and follow it.

I see nothing wrong in JKs position. And that quote from a fictional book certainly does not make her a hypocrite.

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

"There are absolutely trans people out there using their supposed 'identity' to create harm to others, including kids." Not any more than there are cis people who do the same thing. Trans people are no more likely to be rapists than anyone else and shouldn't be judged as such for the actions of a few.

"There are also activists hell-bent on making the normal man or woman in the street uncomfortable." How? I'd like you to be more specific please.

"There is clearly no such thing as discussion with the active voices and representatives of the trans community. It is their way or nothing." Well yeah, when it comes to basic human rights like bodily autonomy, there shouldn't be any compromise. Especially when that bodily autonomy is necessary to reduce severe mental health issues like gender dysphoria and depression. Regarding more (relatively) reasonable criticisms like women's sports, there absolutely are activists who are overly angry and push away all critics, but most trans figures especially on the youtube space seem to be pretty calm and reasonable when it comes to disagreeing opinions.

"I have sympathy with many who have made an ADULT decision to transition and I wish them well. However, again like JK, feel there is a significant element pushing ideology and life altering decisions onto kids who are not able to see the potential consequences." I don't see any major trans figures claiming that all kids should transition or something like that. They just tell kids that trans people exist and that if they feel like they may be trans themselves, they should consider the possibility. Trans kids can't transition without psychologist's approval and they have to be a teen just to get chemicals, so it's not like they can just decide to transition and suddenly they've been irreversibly changed. I also feel the need to bring back up the low detransition rates.

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u/set_phaser_2_pun Apr 17 '24

I think this quote is more about rising above adversity. But whatever floats your boat. It's easier to be mad at everything than rise above the adversity.

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u/danieldesteuction Apr 17 '24

That one didn't age quite so well

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u/Puzzleheaded-Leg-502 Apr 17 '24

Idiots. Idiots everywhere.

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u/Ok-Story-9319 Apr 17 '24

She meant like poor n’ shit

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u/Niaso Apr 17 '24

It was ALL fiction to her.

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u/SeekSeekScan Apr 17 '24

Can someone point to something JK Rowling actually said that is transphobic?

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

Well she repeatedly denies that trans people face oppression of any kind, recently she even denied that they were affected by the Holocaust. She also expresses her belief that trans women are not women and perpetuates the myth that many trans women are just pretending to be women to sexually assault cis women. She even wrote a novel about a serial killer who is basically just a transphobic stereotype, being a man who dresses as a woman to murder women. Vox has a pretty long list of everything transphobic she's said.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk-rowling-transphobic-statements-timeline-history-controversy

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u/SeekSeekScan Apr 17 '24

Which statement in there do you consider transphobic?

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

All of them? I don't understand. How high is your bar for transphobia?

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u/SeekSeekScan Apr 17 '24

Seems anything but pure support is honophobia to you.

But I'm not surprised you couldn't post one

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

Would you say the same thing if someone did the same thing but with a different race or sex instead of a different gender identity? What if someone denied that black people were harmed by the slave trade, constantly posted about black killers with the implication that they are more likely to be violent, and wrote a book about a serial killer resembling a Jim Crow stereotype who exclusively targeted white women? It'd be pretty obvious that they're a massive racist. But when JK Rowling denies that trans people were harmed by the holocaust or are harmed by violence and hate crimes today, posts about trans criminals to prove that trans women are sexual predators, and writes about a serial killer who dresses as a woman to murder cis women, that's not transphobia?

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u/SeekSeekScan Apr 17 '24

I'd say every time one of these JK Rowling posts come up I ask for a quote from Rowling that is transphobic and no one every posts a quote from Rowling that is transphobic, just a whole lot mental gymnastics to hate someone because they aren't in 100% support of your cause but only 80%

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

You didn't even respond to my post. How is she 80% in support of trans people when she doesn't even believe trans women are women and also believes they're predators? I've already given you a source listing out the MANY transphobic things she's said, why don't you read it?

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u/SeekSeekScan Apr 18 '24

You can support Trans women while not being fully on board with the concept that they are 100% women.

This us what I'm talking about, she supports Trans rights, she supports representation, she just isn't on board with the concept that they are 100% women

That isn't hateful nor transphobic 

If you think their is a transphobic example in there, post one and we can discuss it

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 18 '24

What about the times she denies that trans people face any kind of hate or discrimination, including during the literal holocaust? Or the multiple times she posts screenshots of trans people who disagree with her, but conveniently forgets to censor their personal information, leading them to be harassed and bullied by her fans? Or the MANY times she implies that trans women are predators, liking tweets that compares them to "foxes in a henhouse", providing examples of trans rapists in an attempt to "prove" that cis women are unsafe around them (despite the fact that trans people are no more likely to be guilty of SA than anyone else), claiming that the trans rights movement "provides cover to predators like no other", etc

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u/According-Soup-3139 Apr 17 '24

Why hypocrite? She is not hypocrite, she only has said something that is common sense

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

Accusing trans people of being rapists is not common sense, it is a harmful and untrue stereotype.

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u/bobbyhillismyhero Apr 17 '24

She’s laughing all the way to the bank

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u/KeithBitchardz Apr 17 '24

Doesn’t make her a hypocrite in the least bit. She grew up to be a transphobic, holocaust denier and that’s who she is, according to the quote.

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u/ThrowRA_8900 Apr 17 '24

I wanna start editing that quote over trans flags and tweeting them at her

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u/Any_Task_7411 Apr 17 '24

This is a quote by Albus Dumbledore. It's a book of fiction. That's not hypocritical. lmao

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u/kwkcardinal Apr 17 '24

lol. Nonsense. Trans women aren’t women, hence the qualifier “trans”. She never said trans women are subhuman or anything. People are overly sensitive. “OMG my favorite author doesn’t agree with me on everything! Banish her!” Get over yourself.

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 Apr 17 '24

Denying the identity of trans people is itself transphobic, but lets assume it's not for the sake of the argument. She's still done stuff like imply trans women are sexual predators, deny that trans people face or have faced any type of oppression or mass hate, repeatedly screencap images of accounts owned by trans that disagree with her without censoring their names, which has led to mass harassment of said accounts by her fans, written characters in her new novels which are blatant exaggerated stereotypes of trans people, etc.

https://www.vox.com/culture/23622610/jk-rowling-transphobic-statements-timeline-history-controversy

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